Friday, April 27, 2012

Thank you, New York

I had such a great time during my last visit to your MOST AWESOME city. I am buried at work with catch-up, and will get to my trip report and picture postings this weekend. Special thanks to all of you who showed up for the great get-together at St. Andrews - it was so wonderful to meet you all. I can%26#39;t wait to return, although it will have to be after tax season in April. I love New York!!



Thank you, New York


Hi Chissis







I am glad you are home safe and sound. Nice to have met you. I look forward to your report.



Thank you, New York


Sorry I couldn%26#39;t be there to meet you, maybe next time.





Looking forward to your report.




I hate when work gets in the way! It was great to get a chance to meet you, I%26#39;ll be on the lookout for your report.




I%26#39;ve always enjoyed reading about your trips so will be looking out for this.

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I can%26#39;t believe it%26#39;s been 3 weeks since I logged on to this site. I%26#39;ve missed so many good posts! I thought I would write a report of our recent 24 hour stay.



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We got to our hotel at 10:30am and were surprised that they actually honored our request for an early check in and didn’t charge us anything extra! We stayed at the Grand Hyatt at Grand Central. The location was great – I never knew there’s an entrance to the hotel within Grand Central Terminal. So what was nice was that we didn’t have to pay to have our luggage stored at the hotel. After waiting in the check in line for about 20 minutes, we checked right in, freshened up and hit the town. We stuck with our tradition of starting every trip off at the King Cole Bar. I written tons of reviews on it in my previous reports and nothing has changed. They are fantastic. The bartenders are tops and every drink is incredible. Our plan was to then hit the 7th Ave fair, move down to the Bleecker Street festival and then Hells Kitchen Flea Markets and then to lunch but when we came out of the KCB, it was pouring rain!! We were shocked! Before we left our house that morning, we checked weather.com and there was no mention of rain in the forecast at all. Everyone seemed a bit surprised. Of course, we had no umbrellas. So, quick change of plans and we went to the Gingerman instead. They really do have so many beers it was unbelievable. And they even had a good liquor selection. We tried some new beers and took one of their menus so we could plan a return! We tried to pick beers that we had never heard of or can’t find at home. We tried the Christoffel Blonde from the Netherlands, Paulaner Oktoberfest, Hacker-Pschorr Oktoberfest. At this point, I switched to my old stand by Makers and Matt tried a Belgium specialty brew – I think it was Chimay or something like that. The place was nice – really big wooden bar and big tables. It seemed really open and they did serve food although we didn’t have any. I bet this place gets crazy crowded at night.





By this time, the rain had slowed to a drizzle so we left with the intention of walking down to the Hells Kitchen market but as soon as we got outside – heavy rain again! So we bought two $4 umbrellas at a little corner souvenir store. We walked down to the flea market and it was all closed up – all the vendors had big sheets over everything and you really couldn’t shop. So from there, we decided to go straight to lunch. We went to Thai Select and it was probably the best lunch I’ve ever had in the city. I don’t think I ever want to eat lunch anywhere else ever again – yes, it was that good. We started out with two appetizers – Tod Mun (fried fish cakes %26amp; peanuts with a sweet dipping sauce) and Crab Croquette (pretty star-shaped wonton with crab and cheese inside.) This came with 5 different dips, each one hotter than the next. For our entrees, we had the Tamarind Duck and Chicken Pad Gra-Prow. The Duck was crispy and came with greens and bok-choy and had a sweet BBQ flavor sauce. The Gra-Prow came with basil leaves, sweet peppers, hot peppers, onions, green beans and carrots. Both dishes came with a steaming bowl of white rice. The Gra-Prow was really spicy. We wanted to try some of their sake martinis but the bartender is not in during lunch – only dinner. They said we could have beer or sake, just nothing that needed to be mixed. So we had the Hana Lychee Sake which was very good. It’s really sweet but it was one of the best I’ve had. Our total bill was $53 – not bad for all that food! The service was excellent and we noticed that they did a tremendous take-out business. By the time we were done, it was 3pm. We walked back up towards our hotel and as we were walking, the rain stopped – thankfully for good! As we got up to 47th street, we saw that the 7th ave street fair was open and teeming with visitors!! Yeah – time for shopping!!





We must have stopped and looked at every sunglasses and jewelry stand along the way! When we got up to where it ended, around 57th Street, we decided we better head back to the hotel and change out of our rainy clothes before meeting for dinner. So we walked back to the hotel and decided we got there early enough that we would pop into the hotel bar for a quick drink. That was the worst decision ever! The drinks were weak, expensive and the bar literally smelled. It was bad. I’ve never sucked down a drink so fast in my life. (NO COMMENTS PLEASE!!) It really did smell like a wet dog. It didn’t take us long to get changed and we decided to take a taxi down to the meet up at St. Andrews. What we didn’t realize was that we had the time all wrong and we arrived about 45 minutes early. So we went to the little restaurant next door because they had a cute little bar that looked right out on the street. It was called Saju and I think it was French-Vietnamese. They weren’t real crowded yet and the bartender was very nice. He reviewed the menu with us and made great cosmopolitans. We sampled quite a few and they were all delicious. From there we went to the meet up at St. Andrews. I had the Asparagus Soup and Matt had mashed potatoes and onion rings!! Yes, that was his dinner!! He was drinking beer there but I had a couple more cosmos and they were good. I didn’t even notice the huge bar when we walked in but I saw it on the way out and was impressed. They had a huge selection.





After dinner, we went to Rosy O’Grady’s for one more quick drink and then said our goodbyes. From there, Matt %26amp; I were on a mission to go back to the Gotham Bar %26amp; Grill. You might remember that we went there on our drink tour and couldn’t remember it. The minute we walked in we were both like “OH…I remember it now!” It was really crowded but there were two seats down at the far end of the bar so we quickly grabbed them. I h ad a blackberry bellini martini and matt had a Pimm’s Cup. The drinks weren’t bad, in fact they were pretty delicious but the whole place was so snotty and full of itself. The bartenders were rude and it was hard to get their attention. We had the one drink, vowed to never forget the place so we would never have to go back! After that, we stuck with our tradition of ending the night at Matt’s Grill. From there we took a taxi back to our hotel and crashed.





The next morning we met a friend that I had grown up with and her husband and two little kids for breakfast at the Skylight Diner in Chelsea. Breakfast was good and they had all the typical diner food. We said our goodbyes and left to get home in time for kickoff.





Don’t know when we’ll be back – probably not until 2008. It’s hard not coming every month anymore but college costs are outrageous!



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';but college costs are outrageous!'; Just remember that there is an end.




Sorry I did not get to see you this trip, maybe after the new year when you come back.





College costs indeed.





As always, a fun report.




';Because college costs are outrageous!'; Don%26#39;t I know it - daughter has only TWO more quarters until she graduates, and I%26#39;m going to do a big happy dance when she does! However, she does want a trip to NYC (with me) for a graduation present, so that makes me even happier! Enjoyed the report of your quick trip. You guys always have so much fun!




You never fail to disappoint and I was thrilled when I saw your post.



And as for college costs? I know what you mean, and we have a wedding on the go at the same time.Kids eh? ;-)





See you in DC.




The only good thing about the college costs is that it keeps my mind off of how much I miss my son. And we have another one going off to college next year. Sounds like I need a trip to NYC to get my mind off of it!





Well, whenever we go back I%26#39;ve got the next ';tour'; all planned out. Hopefully our trip will coincide with someone else%26#39;s and we can have some company.




Your reports always make my jaw drop. I%26#39;m such a lightweight.





Hopefully you can find a way to get back before %26#39;08. It%26#39;s always more fun when you%26#39;re around.




LOL by reading this last post it seems there is indeed a bit of competition for me and my wild alcoholic consumption!!



Cocktails at 11 am!!! my kind of people!!! I thought i was the only one who did that.......



Although i can consume for hours (in my college and early working days) we would go for days especially on vacations where we knew we would never see the people we came across at the different bars.



Yes, Weller, you, like me are in the PhD grads in the category of consumption and we defiantely have to meet to see who the last man/woman standing is!! I have been warned of your prowess at the bars, but have to say, no matter how much i drink, i can still function long after my party buds fall off one by one...... I have ALWAYS been the last one going in my bunch.





I don%26#39;t know if you seen other posts of mine or not, but we just may be relocating to the NYC area in a few months time, so I would be honored to do a drinking tour with you two.....I know for sure Michael will be a casualty along the way, but i will put up a good fight for the title of ';America%26#39;s Next Top Drinker, New York Cycle';...........



may the best drinker win!!



The only request that i have to make is along the bar path, you two have to hit a few of my fav gay bars...don%26#39;t know if you have experienced drinks from these bars, but all i will say is the average drinker is usually falling off their stools after a few of their drinks!



So what do you say, are you up for the challenge in the future? I love the fact that you know your way around town and know the best places......between the two of us......well, look out NY!!




hi buca - i would love to meet up on a future trip. I%26#39;m not going to advertise all my vices though!! So we may have to adopt a what happens in NYC stays in NYC policy!! I usually try to keep my reports as generic as possible!!





We have learned a lot about the city from our drink tour and got to go to a lot of places we wouldn%26#39;t have even thought to go to because of it. Next time we come back, I%26#39;ll post something so you can see if you%26#39;re going to be around. We only live 3 hours away so we used to be there at least one weekend a month, usually two. But....as I mentioned, college costs have changed our disposable income situation!! We also have to be careful planning a trip because we can%26#39;t really leave our younger son home alone - he%26#39;s old enough - but that%26#39;s the problem - I don%26#39;t want to come home and find out the entire high school senior class had a party at our house!





Our tours have taken us to all kinds of bars in just about every neighborhood, including Brooklyn and a couple in Queens. We are up for just about anything except if a place is just strictly a beer bar. That%26#39;s not my kind of place - I don%26#39;t prefer beer. I%26#39;ve been called a liquor snob by just about everyone but as I like to say, life is too short to drink the cheap stuff anymore! (Matt would completely disagree with me but that%26#39;s because he%26#39;s younger than me!)





Anyway, I%26#39;ve got a good list going for next time - just not sure when next time will be yet. I was planning to come back up after christmas but my son will be home from college so I think I might have to wait until January because I miss him!!





Bettina - I had never been to R O%26#39;Grady%26#39;s before but I have to say, Martin is quite the draw! I may have to go back next time!!





NYCGirl - sorry we missed you too. I%26#39;ll definitely let you know when we%26#39;re coming back. I feel another Blood Orange Punch calling our names!




Oh definately Weller, I too have a STRICT %26#39;dont ask, dont tell policy%26#39; regarding my bar hopping adventures. I too reveal very little, if anything at all not only on the forum, but in general.



I too feel the same......no beer bars (for amateurs) and I too only drink the top and above top shelf products.



Totally agree, life is too short to drink inferior products!! I learned that from working at some top tier restaurants where we would point out and sneer at those patrons who would order, say, a scotch and water. When asked if JWB or Chivas would be preferred, the person would say ';Whatever your well is'; ....EEEEWWWWWW YUCK!!!! I dont think a well brand has ever touched my lips!!! I get goosebumps just thinking about it!!



Alright, the challenge has been accepted!! Keep me updated about your future ventures into the city. Hopefully by Jan. we will be well settled in or near the city.

8 weeks to go, thanks for the recommendations!!

Only 8 weeks to go.... thank you everyone for the brilliant recommendations! Finally, I%26#39;ve got the air tickets and accommodation booked, only have to book for the football, basketball, a few shows and maybe a Woodbury Common visit. And some restaurants....





I%26#39;ve booked Greenwich Village home for the first 10 nights of our stay. Carla was already booked for the last 5 nights, so I contacted a few other places (well actually about 10) and they were all booked up too. Finally, I was able to make a booking at A Garden in Chelsea for the final 5 nights.





DH was hoping to go see the David Letterman show, but based on what I%26#39;ve read, I%26#39;m not sure that%26#39;s going to happen.





I%26#39;m starting to get excited :)



8 weeks to go, thanks for the recommendations!!


Gosh, I had forgotten about a Garden in Chelsea. That%26#39;s terrific. I hope you%26#39;ll get us details after your stay. I also think it will be fun to stay in 2 different neighborhoods. ;)





I don%26#39;t know why you feel you won%26#39;t get into Letterman. Have you read all the tips on the forum? If not, do a text search. Will you have a cell phone while here with a local number?

wedding

Hi Guys,





We are off to NY next week and whilst there fancy getting married.



Having read some of the posts Staten Island appeals, however can anyone tell me if I get the licence in Manhattan does this allow us to marry in Staten Island or do I have to get the licence from Staten Island ?



Thanks



Seve



wedding


You can get the licence at any of the Borough Halls and marry at a different one.





We did this by getting the licence in Manhattan and getting married at Brooklyn.





Congratulations! Let us know how it goes.





PS. Love how you %26#39;fancy getting married next week%26#39;!



wedding


There is only one City Clerk. His office has branches in all five boroughs -- but since it is all the same city, naturally the City Clerk%26#39;s office (and the Marriage Bureau is part of that) in any borough accepts anything done at any other borough.

Cheapest Time?

I was wondering what the cheapest time of year to see NYC is? I went a couple years ago in May and it was cheap and nice to visit ...any suggestions on time?

Cheapest Time?

May is now a pricey time. Well, NYC has become much more expensive in general, but July/August can be good, especially holiday weekends in summer-- a fact that always comes as a surprise to people. Jan-March/April is also more affordable. If you want to come before the end of the calendar year, the week before and leading up to Thanksgiving offers some occasional bargains and Dec. 17-29th can be ok.

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  • After Per Se, where do we go?

    Every December I am in charge of dining arrangements for our group of about 10-14 people. It%26#39;s difficult because we are a large group. We have dined at Alaine Ducasse, Daniel, Jean-George and last year the private dining room at Per Se. This year I would like to find a fabulous spot. Possibly downtown. Won%26#39;t rule out any location, though. I need something new and hot with top rated food and atmosphere. I need to wow them. We are sophisticated - not a touristy type group and we like to have fun. I%26#39;ve even considered a privately catered dinner in a cool location. James Beard House? I need help ... please!





    Thanks,





    After Per Se, where do we go?


    I%26#39;d go for the private, catered dinner - a lot of WOW factor there, I know I%26#39;d be impressed!



    Poppa



    After Per Se, where do we go?


    L鈥橝telier de Jo毛l Robuchon at the Four Seasons on E57 St.




    ';After Per Se, where do we go?';





    To your loan officer?




    You%26#39;re right, but I laughed all the way to the ATM - I didn%26#39;t have to pay the check!




    eleven madison park is getting a lot of buzz on foodie forums (chowhound, egullet, etc), and does a nice looking-tasting menu. we%26#39;re there this weekend so fingers crossed it%26#39;s great!




    Gordon Ramsey is excellent.uptown in the London



    Atelier de joel Robochun excellent choice-they may have a private room-although not downtown.Formal and fun at the same time.Table dining is much nicer than sitting at the bar.IMHO



    Eleven Madison has a private room otherwise the food is good atmosphere ok,but does not compare to the other restaurants listed.



    Bouley -in the private room will be amazing



    Del Posto-Fun and upscale but does not compare with Per Se.Formal dining but the food is just ok not great.People do like it though.



    Ciprihani uptown-Fun and Formal



    WD50-very informal with very creative chef.They have a private room. that is very nice.Obviously more casual but if you are foodies it will be great.



    Scaleni fedelli-downtown,upscale formal Italian-they have a private room.



    PM me if you have any questions






    Alinea - in Chicago





    doesnt compare to Per Se, but I%26#39;m going back for the tour!




    Le Bernardin




    Although I am a true american cuisine person who enjoys nothing more than a top quality and excellent prepared porterhouse, I will occasionally splurge and appreciate an exclusive fine dining experience.



    That said, I would never patronize Per Se for a number of reasons. Regardless of the name and supposed genius behind it, the snotty attitude held by Keller just doesn%26#39;t justify the price. I worked with an excellent chef who was very familiar with him and had not a good word to say about his experiences with him. His assessment of Mr Keller was enough for me. Also, his take on his employees, particularily his front of house employees and his tipping policy doesn%26#39;t set well with me. His feeble attempt to %26#39;change%26#39; the tradition of tipping was laughable to say the least.



    Although it did take two months to secure a reservation at Gordon Ramsey in the 45 seat dining room, it was well worth the wait and tremendous effort involved!! I attended on my birthday and a finer celebration I have not had.



    Their meticulously prepared and presented product was superior, and although there were items on the 7 course menu we had that are ';fine dining basics';, he did manage to put an updated and unique twist on them.



    The service was extremely professional and very well trained, and they offer a spectacular wine ';book';...the possibilities were endless!! The only thing that got to me was their policy of not being allowed to be even one minute late to your reservation time.



    In speaking with the maitre%26#39;d, he didn%26#39;t say large groups were not possible, but instead didn%26#39;t encourage them either.



    Look into it, if it is indeed possible for a large party, it is a great place!!





    We will be dining at Amalia in The Dream Hotel on Saturday night as it is getting some good buzz now and will report back on our experience.




    Tomsoc - here%26#39;s the Michelin 2007 starred-restaurant list for 2007. As you already know you will have to arrange for such a large group with a staff member.



    www.michelinguide.com/stars_nyc_07.html





    Del Posto is downtown, in the ';meatpacking'; district and is a fabulous setting with truly great food - extremely deserving of its 2 stars from Michelin. They will be able to accomodate you.





    Just so you know, down the street from Del Posto is CraftSteak, and across the street is Morimoto - both of which are possibilities.





    I%26#39;m not sure that Bouley will be able to handle that large of a crowd - but worth a call because it%26#39;s one of the true real French places still around.





    I%26#39;m a huge fan of both Le Bernardin and Eleven Madison Park - my personal choice would be EMP - beautiful rooms, great location across from Madison Square Park and one of the best chef%26#39;s currently working ion the city.





    Good luck in your search

    Walking Distances

    Is it possible to be able to walk from Midtown all the way to Lower Manhattan to catch the Staten Island Ferry, or is this a really long walk?





    My boyfriend and I are planning on walking everywhere when we are there, but is this unrealistic?





    Thanks.



    Walking Distances


    You could walk from midtown to lower Manhattan. It would be a long walk, but then that%26#39;s relative.



    Every 20 city blocks is a mile, so remember that when thinking about walking. Also the distance between avenues is much greater.



    Think about Metro cards. Search them here on TA. I generally recommend a refillable card which can be shared.



    By the end of the day you will be walking a lot anyway, I%26#39;d say don%26#39;t exhaust yourself and use our subways and busses. They%26#39;re easy to figure out and fast.



    Walking Distances


    You can measure distances by using hopstop.com





    Walk down B%26#39;way the whole way. Pretty interesting, a good corss sectin of Manahttan.




    it is about a 4 mile walk from Times Square.




    Hopstop estimates the distance at just under 4 miles and estimates an hour %26amp; 10 mins.




    Last November we decided to get a cab from Central Park to Battery Park for the ferry to The Statue of Liberty. We then decided to walk back to Central Park where our hotel was . What a fantastic walk this was going through Little italy and China Town. Being the end of November we came across small Christmas markets selling crafts ect. which we would have missed if we had taken a cab back. Yes it is a long walk but if you take it slowly, stop and look at places of interest and call into a Starbucks for a drink on the way you will find it will be one of your best days in New York. During our five day trip we walked miles and saw so much more.We are returning to NY at the end of November and we will be walking everywhere again but at a slower pace. Walk and Enjoy. Have a great time. Tel




    We walked from 49th street down to the flatiron building and back- that was a long walk and our feet could hardly move after. I would suggest walking most of the way and then getting the subway for parts of the way down. You%26#39;ll still see alot and it will be easier on your feet. We walked most everywhere but as a break took the subway in between. Besides it gets a little tiring to wait for the walk signs at the cross streets and make your way through the hoards of people walking on the sidewalk with you!




    I was just concerned that the queues get really busy for the Staten Island Ferry and I read that the best time to go is first thing in the morning.





    Is this correct? Saying that, we%26#39;ll have to drag ourselves out of bed and have breakfast first (it%26#39;ll be our first day so I hope we don%26#39;t have jetlag!), so it won%26#39;t be that early!!!




    No, the Staten Island Ferry runs all day. It is a commuter ferry, (runs every 30 minutesall day, and once an hour midnight to 5 AM), so it is less crowded before and after rush hours. Try it at 11 AM or at dusk, or even late at night.





    Sounds like you%26#39;re mixing up the STATEN ISLAND FERRY and the STATUE OF LIBERTY FERRY.





    it is the STATUE OF LIBERTY FERRY that is requires early arrival and has long lines.




    NYatheart, you must be thinking of the Circle Line ferry that goes to the Statue of Liberty, not the Staten Island Ferry that just goes past it.




    Oh I must be getting them mixed up.





    We just want to go on the ferry that takes you past so we can take some pictures. We don%26#39;t want to stop at the island and get off and go inside the statue.





    Which ferry do we need?

    Midtown central or midtown east?

    I would like to know which area I should stay in for first visit to NY. I am trying to get good hotel deals off of hotwire and the only description of the hotel is midtown central, midtown east, and etc. The price difference isn%26#39;t much difference but I would like to be closer to all the attractions. Thanks



    Midtown central or midtown east?


    What do you consider to be ';the attractions';?





    New York City doesn%26#39;t have a designated tourist area, though the swamped Times Square comes close. Are you looking for subway access? Walking access? Restaurant access? Broadway access? Shopping access? And to which specific locations?



    Midtown central or midtown east?


    You need a good guide book or any guidebook with a map - it will define the areas you have described.



    As for being %26#39;near%26#39; all the attractions - NYC isn%26#39;t a theme park such as Disneyland, %26#39;all%26#39; the attractions are not in one concentrated area.



    Manhattan, with its wonderful public transport system, makes it very easy to travel and see all the attractions that are scattered about the island.



    Poppa




    Not much difference. I%26#39;ve stayed east (on Lexington and 50th) and central (42nd and Park Ave.) and had no trouble walking everywhere I wanted around mid-town in reasonable time. Mass transit is close by no matter where you stay. Not sure which attractions you mean, but they are spread out all over Manhattan anyway. You will be close enough to walk to everything in mid-town. Anything further downtown like WTC site, Statue of Liberty, Brooklyn Bridge, etc, will require subway, bus or taxi so it won%26#39;t matter where you choose to stay.





    Pick the place you like the best with the best price and best reviews here on TA.





    If you really want the expert opinions of the folks on here (not me, but the others that are duly noted as experts) list the hotels that you are considering and let them give you their thoughts. I have learned a lot about where to go and where not to go from this forum.





    Whatever place you choose, you will have a great time in a great city. I%26#39;m counting down to Nov. 16 arrival!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    Sorry I should have been more specific. What I meant was walking distance to times square, rockefeller center and etc. This is going to be my first trip to new york city and would like to stay in manhattan and so what do you guess suggest?




    I saw on hotwire a backage deal for around $700 airfare and hotel included, the millenium un plaza. What do you guys think about this hotel?




    ';Not much difference. I%26#39;ve stayed east (on Lexington and 50th) and central (42nd and Park Ave.) and had no trouble walking everywhere I wanted around mid-town in reasonable time.';





    Sorry, but I have to point out that Lexington and Park Avenue are one block apart- there%26#39;s not much difference between East and ';Central'; there. Also, there%26#39;s really no such thing as Central Midtown. East and West are divided by 5th Avenue.





    That said, the original poster won%26#39;t have much trouble walking anywhere. Tourists seem to flock to Times Square the first time they come here, then lose their fire after that. If you want to save time and money, I%26#39;d wager that you should probably just skip staying in Times Square altogether- especially if it (aka Midtown West) is more expensive.





    Most people who live here avoid the area like the plague, and after a brief visit tonight, I%26#39;ll reinforce that. The glut of tourists, overpriced junk, and crowding is dreadful.




    Chloe,





    In case you haven%26#39;t already, check out the traveller reviews on TA for this hotel. It has some good, recent reviews. tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60763-d209382-鈥?/a>





    In my experience, I have found better deals by booking hotels and airfare separately. Also, check airlines and hotels directly on their own websites. You get the same (or better) prices without any fees.





    Alice,





    My mentions of the areas (central and east) were based on the terms stated from Hotwire. After further review of Hotwire%26#39;s maps, I see that the places that I have stayed were both classified as east. I will be more careful in the future.





    Also, try to be a little less negative to this ';glut of tourists'; causing the dreadful crowding. We are tourists and are coming to visit a place where you live and see on a regular basis. For some, it will be a once in a lifetime experience. Let them (us) decide if Times Square (or anything else in the city) is great or dreadful. Your dislikes are not necessarily everyone else%26#39;s dislikes.




    ';Your dislikes are not necessarily everyone else%26#39;s dislikes.';





    Exactly- which is why I%26#39;d appreciate being advised about how to avoid the most crowded, tourist-heavy areas in places I%26#39;m going to visit.





    ';Once in a lifetime'; trip or not, not everyone%26#39;s going to want to spend a good chunk of their time stuck in a crowd of hundreds of thousands of people bumping around in Times Square.




    I think either location is fine, but not all hotels are. ;)Betterbidding.com has a list of hotwire hotels. If you make note of the amenity icons (business center, fitness, restaurants etc.) you can usually figure out the hotel. If you do that and then either look at the reviews of the 2 hotels or ask for opinions here, we can help. So, in order to figure out a hotwire hotel you need, area, star level and amenities, then check betterbidding list.





    I think the Mill UN Plaza is a very good hotel. It%26#39;s one of the few with great views from most rooms. It%26#39;s got a somewhat unusual (for NYC) rooftop swimming pool (indoor). It%26#39;s only negative for some is it%26#39;s a bit further to walk to a subway stop or Fifth ave., but still doable and there are crosstown buses. When is your trip? Btw, I agree that very often you can get a better deal by booking yourself separately air and hotel.




    Since everything is walkable or accesible by subway, bus or taxi, go with the better hotel deal.





    Also, to gague walking distance, use hopstop.com or maps.google.com





    You%26#39;re going to be walking a lot anyway, so not much diff, imho, bwn a quarter or a half mile to Rock Center because you%26#39;ll simply be closer or farther from other things, like say, the ESB.

    Please help! never been to NYC!

    Hey all,





    I am going to Hartsdale NY on October 10th....since I am so close, we will be going to NYC...I have a car rented but need to know what I should do about driving! I have heard that I shouldnt drive in NYC b/c its just too busy.





    We want to go on to the Statue of Liberty, Times Square, and the Empire State Building...





    Can anyone tell me which of these place I will be alright driving to....and if not, where to park, and can I get a taxi and how much?





    Sorry for all the questions but I really need some info!!!





    Crystal



    Please help! never been to NYC!


    Park your car in Hartsdale and take the Harlem line MetroNorth into Manhattan. It%26#39;s only about a half hour on the train, and the ride ends in Grand Central. Take the subway or walk from there, depending on what you want to see first.





    Do not drive here.



    Please help! never been to NYC!


    Well, you can%26#39;t drive to the Statue of Liberty-also, it is not recommended to drive in NYC as public transportation is much more convenient.



    Poppa




    Alice is right -- there is a MetroNorth station right there in Hartsdale, so why would you think of driving in rather than taking the commuter train?




    If you wanted to drive into the city , you would still need to park the car in a garage and then use public transportation, bus or subway would be less expensive. If you go to www.hopstop.com it will tell you walking distances bus and train, it even tells you how much a cab will cost.





    Here are parking garages and see if it is cost effective to drive or take public transportation to manhattan. I think it will depend how many people are in your party.





    You can use the bus or train to get around. If you are driving from Rochester there is no big deal driving in New York City, it is just stop and go. I drive all the time. If it is just you I would park the car and use the train. More than 2 people you may want to consider driving.





    www.nycgarages.com





    www.Iconparking.com





    The Port Authority has parking





    The parking garage sites gives you lists of locations and rates.







    I was lucky last saturday, we found street parking and we paid with our credit card at the meter. I would NOT suggest ( using a meter) for the first experience, because it may take too much time to find a spot. You may get lucky to find one, it%26#39;s like a 6 hour meter. I would just find a lot, closest to one location , which ever one is cheaper.




    If you are planning to come on a weekend it will not be so bad driving.




    Sorry, The 10th is a wed. weigh out your options.




    i know you cant drive to the statue of liberty....obviously...but you can drive to where you get on the ferry.





    but thanks and if i can ride in right from hartsdale it would be great! how much will it cost to ride into NYC from hartsdale??





    Once again, thanks!




    check out metro north info online for times and fares. don%26#39;t drive into the city....cost of parking will exceed your train fare by alot.




    just wanted to make sure, it will cost about 30 bucks to ride in a taxi from the empire state building to liberty park?




    According to HOPSTOP approximate taxi fare from Herald Sq/34St to Battery Park would be approximately $12.50 plus tip.



    Poppa

    First NYC Visit many questions?

    Me and my girlfriend have booked a visit to NYC on 12th Jan 2007 for 5 nights staying in the Comfort Inn Manhattan, this is our first visit and we have some questions that we would be grateful if anybody could advise/answer for us?

    Firstly January weather im expecting it to be cold but is it really that bad?

    Comfort Inn Manhattan any good?

    Transportation between Newark airport and Comfort Inn whats the best way to get to hotel and again back to airport on return ? how long would it take and cost?

    Best attractions for first time visitors aged 20, looking for shopping, sight seeing and good food (looking forward to chinatown)

    Finally (for now) transportation in and around new york?

    I hope any of you can help !

    First NYC Visit many questions?

    read the FAQs first

    tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g60763-i5-k1461580鈥?/a>

    First NYC Visit many questions?

    Christo, please refer to the thread started by %26#39;WanderlustEdinburgh%26#39;, I wrote a rather lengthy reply that may be of some help to you on your trip.

    Also as was directed above, read the FAQ look before you post thread on the top of this page.

    Have a great trip!!


    Double check that your hotel will allow you to rent a room, most places require that you be 21.


    hey i went to nyc last oct for the first time with my lil sister shes 21 and im 24 so we are around the same ages.

    woodbury common was great for shopping, u can get a bus from the port authority for about $30. its a good day out u will spend hours there.ur girlfriend will love it lol

    this time around im planning to try jersey gardens which is supposed to be great.

    century 21 is also good for shopping.

    macys is worth a visit too.

    for food there are hundreds of resteraunts so just stroll around and wen u get hungry ul never be far from sumwer to eat.

    also vendors on the side of the roads sell hotdogs for a nibble when ur too busy shopping to stop and eat.lol

    as for ur hotel u could type the name into the search bar and read the reviews.

    one last thing i dont mean to put a dampner on ur holiday but drinking is over 21%26#39;s and they are quite strict when it comes to id.

    anymore questions fel free to ask and i will try help.

    have a great trip


    id suggest walking around the city as u will see more, u can buy a metro pass which works out cheap for using the subway.

    taxi%26#39;s are everywhere, u cant miss them there bright yellow lol.

    the taxi from newark to manhattan iv been told could cost up to $80 dollars including tips and tolls.

    you could also get a train to penn station and taker a cab from there to ur hotel which would work out cheaper.

    the weather in january is cold so id suggest gloves ,jackets,scarves etc.

    some of this is from experience some is from questions i hav asked on here b4.


    Cheers guys for the help and advice FAQ were very handy and gd place to start !! lol!

    Bettina thank you for pointing that out it turns out all is ok as we booked through Virgin atlantic and they are a reputable firm so you would hope they know of such requirements any how I went direct to Comfort Inn and they only require that we are 19 or older!

    I am sure I will call upon your advice again before my trip!

    Cheers


    Stayed in the Comfort Inn 2 years ago, expect no frills in this hotel the rooms very basic %26amp; quite old fashioned. The free breakfast provided is a plus and the guy on reception was great. Location is fab, very central, Macys down the block, Empire State Building just around the corner.

    You%26#39;ll have a fantastic time!!

    Returning to New York in 8 weeks time...can%26#39;t wait!!

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  • Batali,

    I think batali is the most over-rated chef in NYC.I do not care for any of his restaurants.definitely lives off of his reputation.



    Batali,


    Well said!



    I heartily second your opinion.



    Poppa



    Batali,


    I%26#39;m glad you two have found each other - I was starting to feel sorry for poppa being the lone Batali-hater.





    I would love to hear from both of you what your personal dining experiences were at each of the below ... don%26#39;t be shy - let%26#39;s hear the bitter truth about Batali%26#39;s food and restaurants...





    Babbo Ristorante e Enoteca



    Bar Jamon



    Casa Mono



    Del Posto



    Esca



    Lupa



    OTTO Enoteca Pizzeria



    The Spotted Pig








    He seems to be a pompous a$$ on the Food Channel.




    Since Mr Batali doesn%26#39;t actually cook in any of the restaurants mentioned I just wondered what the two posters I addressed had against the Executive Chefs who actually turn out the food.





    If avoiding pompous as*e* in NYC were a criteria I%26#39;m afraid we would have to cancel all our visits to every top restaurant (except those of Danny Meyer), all designer label stores, all top jewelers, etc.




    Good point, LTT. If what Bourdain says is true, it%26#39;s a requirement to be a talented chef.




    I%26#39;m also curious to hear about the bad meal experiences. I%26#39;ve eaten at Babbo, Lupa, Bar Jamon, Casa Mono, and Otto, and the worst complaint I%26#39;ve heard is that the carbonara was a bit too salty.





    I%26#39;ve always had good luck making Batali%26#39;s recipes at home, as well. They%26#39;re incredibly simple and have always turned out well.





    Which celebrity chefs do you haters prefer?




    Whatever you think of Batali the book Heat by Bill Buford about working in Batali%26#39;s kitchen is a great book. Just my book recommendation if people want to know more about Batali the person.




    This hater prefers this guy who%26#39;s been around for a while. You might not know him, though. His name is Ronald McDonald and he looks a little different with his red hair and all. He makes the best french fries around. If you don%26#39;t like his food, then you don%26#39;t know good food.





    And before I get blasted for this response, I AM JOKING!!!!!




    Perhaps I should not be bashing Mr Batali - I%26#39;ve never met him, never eaten in one of his restaurants - my opinion is solely based on the way he presents himself on TV.



    He may be a talented chef, it%26#39;s just his attitude that %26#39;bugs%26#39; me.



    I guess I was just up for some Batali Bashing - and if his carbonara is too salty - that just adds fuel to the fire.



    I do agree that MickeyD%26#39;s offers some the best fries around and I%26#39;m not kidding.



    Hey, just going with the flow.



    Poppa




    Don%26#39;t be a hater hater....


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  • Sundays in NYC

    This is probably a stupid question but what are the trading hours for the shops etc on sundays? I am coming in April flying on a saturday morning,get to JFK for lunch, so I don%26#39;t want to miss any valuable shopping time!!,I am only there for 3 nights . Any other tips welcome I always plan a long time in advance so I will constantly be asking questions for the next few months!



    Sundays in NYC


    Most stores open on Sundays, you will be fine shopping wise. Unless you are into super high end stores, many of them close on Sundays. They are concentrated along Madison Ave from 60th to 80th St.



    Sundays in NYC


    Just thought I%26#39;d add most stores open at 11-ish on a Sunday




    Most clothing stores are generally open from noon to six or so on Sundays.

    For anyone who's been to a Giants or Jets game...

    I can get tickets in the Upper Bowl (Plaza Sideline - section 309, row 11) for $115 each, or in the Lower Corner (section 138, row 40) for $153 each.





    My question is...section 138 is lower but under the overhang (no idea what that means!)...and is in the corner, so it will be great to see when the ball is in that end. But when in other end, the view won%26#39;t be that great.





    Section 309 is up a lot higher, but it%26#39;s on the sideline which could mean better views throughout the whole game, just higher up and not as close as section 138.





    Should I pay the extra $40 for the lower bowl? Will it be worth it? Or would we be fine with upper bowl tickets.





    My BF has played football his whole life, ever since he was 9 years old, and has never seen an NFL game. I want to make sure he gets a good view, but I%26#39;m not sure he%26#39;ll get that in a corner.





    Any advice from anyone who%26#39;s been to a game?





    Here is the link to the floorplan, for anyone who wants to reference it.



    seatdata.com/html/鈥ick_section_nfl_jets.htm



    If you click on the sections, it gives you a %26#39;rough view%26#39; of what the game will look like from your seats.





    Thanks!



    For anyone who's been to a Giants or Jets game...


    I have watched the Giants on TV for the past 27 years and when I walked into Giants Stadium for the first time about 8 years ago I was shocked at how small the stadium is and how much you are on top of the field.





    I personally would not want to be in the corner, particularly for extra money. I think you are better off in the middle of the field and going higher.





    Have fun and get there early!



    For anyone who's been to a Giants or Jets game...


    To be honest, they both have equal negatives.





    Section 309 is a bit better but not much. Ideally you%26#39;ll want to be 310-312




    Thanks for the advice! I was able to get tickets in section 312 for $115 each. You guys have been very helpful! :)




    Just another quick Q-





    If the game starts at 1pm, what time is it likely to end? And if taking the bus, what time will we likely be getting back into Manhattan?




    If the game starts at 1:00 look at it to be over around 4:00 - 4:30. I%26#39;m not sure how long it takes to get back to Manhattan.

    Coming to New York

    I have a criminal record for football related violence, will that have an impact on visiting New York, Thanks guys,





    Coming to New York


    This is the more general New York State forum.





    You%26#39;ll probably get more responses if you post this on the New York City forum.





    If you enter the words ';criminal record'; in the search box, you%26#39;ll find previous threads that address this query.





    Good luck!!

    Wicked Tickets???

    What is the best agency to go thru for NYC Wicked tickets?

    Wicked Tickets???

    there%26#39;s already a post on this message board about this subject

    tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g60763-i5-k1479910鈥?/a>

    Wicked Tickets???

    by the way, is there some reason you don%26#39;t want to see Wicked that is in Chicago ?

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  • Greenwich Village

    Have booked to go on the Foods of NY Greenwich Village tour on a Sunday Morning.



    Can anyone recommend any bars/ restaurants for a group of 3 30 something girls to visit in the village in the afternon / evening?



    Greenwich Village


    This is the more general New York State forum.





    You%26#39;ll probably get more responses if you post this on the New York City forum, but remember to be specific about budget, likes and dislikes.





    Plus, check out th eextensive FAQ ';sticky'; at the top of the NYC forum for answers to your questions. In the FAQ are collections of trip reports, inlcuding ';girly'; trips.





    Have fun!

    One day stopover in NYC Dec 23rd - How to spend the day?

    We (2 adults (50 ish), 2 teens, and one fit grandmother) are going on a S.Caribbean cruise just before Christmas and our flight home (using airline points) involves a one night stay (Dec 22nd) and a pretty full day (Dec 23rd) in NYC. W need to leave for the airport at 5pm.





    I imagine Dec 23rd will be a pretty festive day to walk the streets of New York.





    Seasoned NYC travellers or researchers, how would you spend the day?



    One day stopover in NYC Dec 23rd - How to spend the day?


    I%26#39;d mosey up to Central Park. Stroll on up to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Then find a good lunch at somewhere like Bistro 60. Not sure from your post where you are heading for on 12/23. Do you have a flight time?



    One day stopover in NYC Dec 23rd - How to spend the day?


    I have a question - what time do you arrive on the 22nd, because if you need to get to the airport by 5 on the 23rd you will have to leave the city around 2PM, so you don%26#39;t really have a lot of time.





    Where are you staying?




    Hi,





    We are staying at the Embassy Suites near Brooklyn Bridge. We arrive about 7pm on the 22nd.





    Flight to Vancouver is at 8pm on the 23rd.




    I am sorry, I misread your post about when you are leaving for the airport.





    I would get up very early and take the free Staten Island Ferry ride past the Statue of Liberty, will take about 1 hour.





    I would then walk to the entrance of the Brooklyn Bridge near City Hall, walkable from your hotel, walk halfway and come back.





    Grab the subway at Brooklyn Bridge, right across from the bridge, and head to 42nd Street Grand Central and have a look around.



    Walk west on 42nd Street, take a quick peek into the main NY Library at 42nd %26amp; 5th. Walk 1 block west to Bryant Park and have look at the Xmas fair. Walk 1 more block west to 7th Avenue/Broadway and you will be in TImes Square. Walk north to 50th Street, make a right (east) and head to ROckefeller Center, where you will see the tree, the ice skating rink, and I would visit Top of the Rock observation deck for a great view of the city, and the stores displays on 5th Avenue.





    Depending on your timing, the rest is up to you when to head back to your hotel.





    Have fun..




    NYCGirl has a fantastic itinerary. I would definitely do that!




    Wow, NYCgirl, thanks for the great itinerary. Just what we were looking for. We just need to find a nice spot for lunch and our day will be complete.

    yankee stadium tour,

    hi there,



    i am over in nyc from november 20th-24th and wish to visit yankee stadium on friday the 23rd,any one know if the tour will be operating on this day?



    thanks for any help,



    yankee stadium tour,


    Have a look here:





    www.ticketmaster.com/event/1D003D6A9E086BD5/?



    yankee stadium tour,


    cheers for that mate,



    any one know how far the stadium is from 161st subway station?




    Tours are available in November



    When you exit the subway at 161st St. the stadium is across the street.




    cheers rqf,



    i am over in nyc nov2oth-24th,most of our party are going shopping on the 23rd at woodbury common(yuk)so i am going to take the oppertunity to visit the staduim,



    many thanks for your help




    Be sure to pre-purchase your tickets. The tours sell out often.




    Are you aware that Thursday, Nov.22 is Thanksgiving. Very few stores, if any, will be open. Friday, the 23rd, is the busiest shopping day of the year.





    You might want to go to Macy%26#39;s Thanksgiving day parade on the 22nd. It runs from 9 AM to 12 PM.




    cheers rqf,



    yes,we were aware that the 22nd was thanksgiving,we are staying at the wellington hotel on 7th ave and 55th street so hopefullly we will get a good view of the parade,



    any idea of where i can get yankee tour tickets before hand?



    thanks once again




    Google ';Yankee Stadium Tour Tickets';





    The Wellington is on 7th Ave. The parade marches down Broadway, one block west. The parade route will be jammed.

    Please help with schedule of activites

    I am trying to plan out my daily schedule for 12/20-12/24 trip and having a hard time putting it together b/c I don%26#39;t know the how long it takes to go from one place to another. I would love all the inputs from everyone! Anyway, I will be flying in to NY by 12:30 and hopefully get checked in and everything and ready to explore the city by 3pm. The list below are places I want to go see spread out in 3 days (one day will be going down to washington d.c):





    Times square



    rockefeller center



    central park



    SOL (already decided on staten island ferry)



    Brooklyn bridge



    Ground zero



    Chinatown



    Korea town (is this near chinatown?)



    Soho- is it necessary to go around soho? sorry I don%26#39;t know much about NY beside times square.



    Empire state building



    St. Patricks church



    Catch one broadway show at 8





    I will be staying at Millenium UN Plaza. TIA





    Chloe







    Please help with schedule of activites


    Times square, Rockefeller Center, Central Park, Empire state building and St. Patrick%26#39;s church should be visited on the same day





    SOL, Brooklyn bridge ,Ground zero and Chinatown should be visited on the same day.





    Korea Town is on 32nd St. between 5th Ave. and Broadway, two or three miles north of Chinatown. You can do this on the day you visit the Empire State building.

    Big Onion Greenwich Village Tour

    6 days to NY and I can%26#39;t wait!!!

    I was in Manhattan in April and this time I%26#39;m taking my parents back with me (they%26#39;ve never been to the City) and we%26#39;ll be celebrating my birthday as well.

    Last time I was in town I took the Chelsea Market foods of NY tour which was one of the highlights of my trip. I%26#39;d be very excited to do the Greenwich Village one next. However, there%26#39;s also a Big Onion tour of Greenwich Village and I was wondering if anyone has ever done that tour in particular and can provide some info as far as what the focus is (ie: literary? cultural? both?) and did you enjoy it?

    Any thoughts would be HIGHLY appreciated!!!

    Thanks!

    Lucy

    Big Onion Greenwich Village Tour

    Have not done either, but just wanted you to know everyone seems to LOVE the foodofny tour of the village.

    There is a free walking tour on Oct. 6 given by the GV Alliance

    villagealliance.org/events.html#tasteVillage

    and there%26#39;s also this private tour

    http://www.walknyc.com/gv.htm

    Big Onion Greenwich Village Tour

    I have done the Big onion tour of Greenwich village this summer and loved it. The tour guides are university students who are generally on their PHD%26#39;s. We got one that was really interesting and the tour talks about lots of things: architecture/anecdotes/history and so on. The downside was that we were too many people and you had to scramble to get up close to the tour guide. It is one of the best walking tours I did in the city.

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